FAMOUS PEOPLE I HAVE KNOWN

A lecture by

Capt. W. B. Robertson

at the

1990 OT Convention

near Paris, France

Video (1:38:57)

Welcome to the OT Convention 1990 !

We've had a great time so far, watching good lectures and seeing products displayed, and a late "music night" last night, and we have the great finale coming up where we do the presentations.

But now – I want to tell you something and it is listed in the program as a lecture about "Famous People". It's actually "Famous People I Have Known". I've only really known one famous person in this lifetime. So I'm going to talk about him. And you may know him as L. Ron Hubbard, or if you're more on the wholetrack you may know him as Elron Elray.

The first thing I want to do, because a lot of people claim status from "knowing" famous people – so I don't want to do that but instead prove to you that I knew him and that he knew me, which is more important.

I have here a Flag Order No. 2372 from 6 March 1970, and it's a commendation:

"The following officers and petty officers are highly commended as missioners in the recent public relations cruise -period". Captain W. B. Robertson is on the top of the list – and its signed by L. Ron Hubbard, Commodore.

I have another one here from 1970 – 6 March.

"I hereby highly commend Captain W. B. Robertson for excellent performance of duty while Captain of the Flag Ship." and it is signed; (also with some other people commended,) by L. Ron Hubbard.

Bill's Mission Records: pg 1, pg 2, pg 3

I have another one here from 1975, 30 April, Flag Conditions Order 381 1, and it says "Kha Khan" – "Captain W. B. Robertson, right arm rank, is hereby awarded the status of Kha Khan for excellent duty as Captain of Flag ship Apollo and a long career of success and high statistics in the Sea Organization." Signed L. Ron Hubbard, Commodore.

Kha Khan means – it's an old Chinese term – from the Mongols, and it meant: You are forgiven the death penalty ten times over.

And then I have a letter, a personal letter, typed on 18 August 1980. This was just before the Ron disappeared from the California area. It was from "R", which was at that time the initial of "Ron", or "L. Ron Hubbard" – he signed it just with "R".

It says: "Bill Robertson, re. Sea Org Songs music and poem – (I'd sent him some music that I had made for the Sea Org, marching songs and go on.) It says: "Dear Bill, Well! These certainly are impressive! Thank you very much for sending me this copy for my library. I understand that you did a very good job of holding the Commanding Officer of the Flag Bureau (in Clearwater, Florida) while Kerry was training at International. Your work there is certainly appreciated, but I am also glad to hear that you are back home. Love, R." (Ron).

And the last one I want to show you – quote – "in the MEST universe you have to "prove" everything a bit more solid" – and that is the Sea Org Officers' dirk which was only awarded to First-Class Missioners, and it was awarded to me by L. Ron Hubbard, Commodore.

... ( the Officers Dirk is shown to the audience) ...

There were less than ten of these ever awarded in the whole history of the Sea Org.

OK, so that's my "bona fides", my proof to you that I did know him... but also that he knew me. So I'm not just only claiming "status", OK ?

Now, you maybe have heard of, or read, many books since 1980 written about this man L. Ron Hubbard. And perhaps you may have been a bit, shall we say, "underwhelmed" by the data contained in them, because you got this picture of a man who was totally stuck on his First and Second Dynamics. However, in my experience with C/Sing cases and knowing the people who wrote these books, I would say really that the authors of these books were the ones stuck on the First and Second dynamics.

And I am here to tell you that there is more about LRH that the world has not heard about. So I am going to start and tell you my actual experiences with him, but on my dynamic and especially the Third Dynamic, which, as you heard from Arnold's speech yesterday, is a very important dynamic to all of life.

So, let's go back to 1962, the first time I heard LRH. I was in Denver, Colorado and I listened to his tape of 'The Road to Truth'. And afterwards I asked the Center-holder. I said: "Wow, that was great! Did he ever make any more tapes ?" You see, the tape had explained a lot of questions I had asked myself about life and what we are doing in our lives. So I was overwhelmed, not underwhelmed, when the guy, the center-holder told me that: "Oh, he's made nearly two thousand tapes"! And I said, "Where are they?" And he said, "Well we don 't have them all here, but they're all at Saint Hill, UK in England."

So I immediately started saving money and planning to go to Saint Hill and taking all the courses necessary to enter the Saint Hill Briefing Course.

And there was the first time I saw LRH. And met him. And the way that happened was, that I and two other Briefing Course students were in one of the Chapels playing the guitar at lunch-time. And all of a sudden the door opened and Ron came in. And we were a bit embarrassed because workers were making some construction in the chapel and we weren't supposed to be in there. So we sort of stopped playing and made excuses. "Excuse us, sir" – you know, things like that. And Ron just laughed and he came over and said: "Hey, you got a guitar there, have you ever heard this song?" And he just started playing us a song, and he sang one of the old – he said it was a pirate song. You know – from the track. And then he introduced himself to us and said: "Welcome to the Briefing Course! I'm glad you're here, and have a good time and a good success with the technology".

Now that hardly sounds like the "evil Messiah" that you read about in books. OK, so then I saw him many times at Saint Hill, because he was then lecturing and giving the last of the study tapes. And going on his trip to and return from Rhodesia. I was there during that whole time at Saint Hill. And by the time I had finished the Briefing Course I had decided to go to work at Saint Hill.

I had now heard about six or seven hundred of those tapes! So I contracted to Staff at Saint Hill and I was supposed to be in the auditing area, because I was Class VI at that time. And I also started the Class VII Internship.

And then I got my first written communication from L. Ron Hubbard, because I was now on the Third Dynamic and he'd ordered me in writing, to take the post of the Director of Review at Saint Hill. Now we must understand his viewpoint in the Third Dynamic: He didn't want to lose anyone off the lines. And the former Directors of Review - there were two former ones - had allowed 173 cases to be out there in the field that were not handled.

So he gave me the job of – these big lots of folders, you see – handling all those, and he said: "I want that entire backlog – I want all of them handled and back on lines and I give you three months to see if you can do it". And he also gave me a briefing on how to get people to return if they are off the lines. And I used all this technology and by the end of the three months I had it down to 18 folders of people that I just couldn't contact or they hadn't responded or whatever, so I thought: "Oh. oh, now it's my turn - I'm going to be removed off and he'll put another guy here".

But Ron inspected those folders and he said: "OK, that was a good job." Because about 163 got in - and he said: "You can stay on post. These other guys may be out of the country for a while or something, so you get them in when they come back."

I was under pressure. Now, notice two things about this: I could write that up as and he made me handle all these people. But in actual fact Ron was concerned about anyone who had started Scientology and didn't continue, and those 173 people were out there that he wanted to get back on lines and fix up their by-passed charge and have them happily on the Bridge again.

And he put me in a Third Dynamic situation where I had to apply correct technology or I would fail. And by then I had reviewed and audited almost everyone of those people that had come in to handle their cases, and I had learned so very, very much because Ron would C/S them also. So I learned a lot about what is a Third Dynamic and the responsibilities for the people in a third dynamic. And how to handle the public, and how RON did not want any kind of enturbulation to get into the Fourth Dynamic because it was already too enturbulated.

So I was then all involved in Review and doing my Level VII Internship. And then Ron suddenly disappeared from Saint Hill for a while. We didn't know where he really was. And we heard these strange rumors about ships. And the Sea Project.

And suddenly Staff members were disappearing also in the middle of the night and would never be seen again. And there was a top security area in one of the garages with nobody supposed to go in there. At night there were certain people in there and they were doing something even – apparently – more confidential than C/Sing folders on power processing!

One of my auditors happened to be passing by the garage when the door opened to let a guy out and he got a quick look inside and he came to tell me what he saw. He came to me and said: "Uh, I don 't want to have a missed withhold, I don 't want to withhold anything, but I saw what they were doing in there!" And I told him, I said: "Don't worry, I don't mind sharing your missed withhold. What the hell were they doing?" He said: "They were all... they had pieces of rope in their hands and they were tying knots in there!"

Now at that point I was, well: "Wow, this is really getting mysterious!" I mean, was it some new higher level OT process they were doing? I didn't know. Remember, actually later he did come out with something called NOTs. [Laughter from the English speaking audience – but the German and French translations did not produce the same joke as the words are different.]

I'll remember about translations and not tell any more English jokes like that.

I was on the Clearing Course by that time and you had to be on the Clearing Course and you had to be Staff member contracted in Saint Hill before you could apply to join the Sea Project. So I did that.

And after a couple of weeks I got an acceptance letter signed by the LRH communicator at Saint Hill because Ron was still disappeared. We didn't know where he was.

So I was called into the office of the LRH communicator at Saint Hill. It was in Ron's office that he was sitting... and he told me... he said: "You're now under Sea Project Orders." And he told me, "don't go back to pick up your E- meter and your things in Qual division, meet tonight at midnight at this person's house (who was already in the Sea Project). We will take care of all your things you left in Qual and you just close up where you live and pay the rent and go to that place at midnight tonight". And he showed me a telex order signed by Ron, it said: "Robertson to be assigned as Chief Engineer, Enchanter." This was high adventure at that time !

So I did what he said and I was then put on a train from London to a town called Hull in England that night. And there I found two ships of the Sea Project and a lot of the disappeared Staff members from Saint Hill working on them. The one I was assigned to soon sailed and we had – at that time it had an English captain who was not a Scientologist – to take it down to Las Palmas, Gran Canaria, which is south of Spain. It's an island out in the Atlantic. And that was a very adventurous, but that will be the subject of another lecture.

We finally arrived there. I still hadn't seen Ron, we didn't know where he was. We arrived there and went to the post office to see if there was any communications for us. And there was a letter for the Enchanter. And it was from Ron. And it said: "I am arriving at Las Palmas airport." And the date was that night at 7.30 ! "Please meet me."

We just had enough time to take a taxi cab to the airport and the plane was there. And out of the gate came LRH with big boxes of paper and a suitcase. I don't need to tell you what was in those boxes, because you've heard many stories about it. That was the OT III research material. He had researched the OT III in the area of Teegeeack where the major city of the planet had been, which was on the north coast of Africa. And so, for some time then, he was involved in putting together the course, the OT III course, and working ways to make it easier to handle and to run through all those materials. Meanwhile we were busily refitting the ships, arranging exactly the way that he wanted to use them for perfect safety, seaworthiness and ability to navigate. And he was also hatting us on how to handle ships and how to handle navigation in the oceans.

At first Ron thought – because I talked to him several times, and now I was pretty much talking to him every day - he thought it would be necessary to run the OT III in a warm climate, because there were several very heavy incidents to run through and if you didn't do it in a warm climate, the body might get too cold and it might go into some kind of sickness or illness and so on.

So he wanted to establish a base there in the Canaries to bring OTs to, in order to do OT III. A bit later he discovered a way that it could be done easier with a certain procedure which you now use. It's the exact same thing you now have on that level, where you can run it safely anywhere on the planet. Again you can see how he was concerned with the health and the welfare and the ability to go up the Bridge of the Scientologists and the public.

Then, as we carried on with our missions around the Mediterranean and trying to handle orgs and so on, we became known as the Sea Org. It was renamed – the Sea Project became the Sea Org.

One of the important meetings I had with other officers and with Ron was in his office after we bought the Flagship Apollo – the big ship you've seen on all the pictures. And we sat around his desk (in a room, about half the size of this), in that cabin, and he told us of the history of the planet all the way since the times of 75 million years ago, and some other more recent history where he'd been involved, in the last 2000 to 3000 years.

And he told us of several of his lives in the past that he was using to build up reserves and technology to prepare for the auditing of the people of this planet. And he told us that Buddhism, when he was Gautama, was the first attempt to get people to stay out of their reactive banks, but there were two main difficulties with that time in Buddhism. And one was, that the communication lines did not have good duplication on them, and the other was, that there were no instruments to detect which charge to run on a person first. So he said that the best he could do with Buddhism was to keep people away from the bank by doing the middle path and to exteriorize them if they could key out enough mass. And he said that now he also needed to save up enough resources or get enough resources to make this a worldwide movement.

So right there he had laid out the future of the Sea Organization. You've read the book "Mission Into Time" – that was the one to recover the reserves. And you see the intensive amount of duplication and communication lines he put in in policy and in the red volumes. Everything is totally up to 1980... very accurate. Everybody had telex machines in their orgs and everybody was supposed to learn how to duplicate what it said and so on, so that there would be no alter-is.

And you have seen the intense concentration he did on developing new and improved versions of the E-Meter. Teaching people how to use them. Training them to use the E-Meter exactly. And which still continues today, as you can see from the new E-Meters shown at this Convention.

Now you start to see the picture of the man who is concerned about the whole planet and the cases of all the people on it. And his entire grasp of the history of the planet and how to bring it to a better condition.

Does this sound like a man who is collapsed on his First and Second Dynamics? I don't think so. Only the people who write about him who themselves are collapsed on their first and second dynamic could ignore these things.

There was one thing that he still had as a major problem in getting the technology applied on the whole planet. And he said: "In many ways I have tried to get official help for our project on this planet from several governments and it has always been refused. And we have subsequently been attacked by those same governments. They apparently do not want to see their people get more able and more free."

So another aspect of our missions then was to try to find a safe place or a safe country for making OTs. And also to train OTs so that they could bring health to the people of the other countries. That was where the pattern of the future Sea Org was laid out, in that conference.

So that's what we were doing for the next 16 years. I might add that during that conference when he told us the stories of his times on the time-track, what he was doing and so on, he would put the mock-up of that beingness, whoever he was at that time... around him in an energy field and actually mock it up so that everyone could see it. For instance, when he talked about the Buddha you saw an Easterner sitting at the desk. He had changed to a whole eastern type mock-up with a different face and everything like that, sort of shimmering out in front of his body. When he talked about his time in the Roman navy legions of Julius Caesar you could see the brass helmet and the breast-plate and a different Roman-looking face in front of his body. And of course we weren't surprised – we knew he was an OT!

And most of the people at that time had continued telepathic communications with him as auditors, or whenever they needed help. I will just tell you again that all people in the Sea Project at that time were above Clear. And nearly all of them were Briefing Course Graduates. Later on, to increase the volume of what we were doing, as there was more and more activity, the recruiting requirements were lowered until finally there were people coming in that didn't have much training and they didn't have this reality. I just want to point that out because a lot of the stories you hear are from those people's viewpoints later on. And they were most often stuck on their First and Second Dynamics.

So, as we were working through these 16 years, I will just tell you another couple of meetings I had with Ron that were important. I was seeing him nearly every day for several years and talking about the condition of the ship – at that time I was the Captain and I did meet with him on a couple of more important occasions which I will tell you.

And one of these was when it was a New Year's Eve – supposed to be a holiday, and I was going down to the party they were going to have, and I walked past the office of Ron. And he was in there on his holiday with a stack of case folders about this high, (3 feet) – C/Sing to keep the cases of the crew in good shape so that everybody could operate better, and handling a whole pile of dispatches on the other side of his desk having to do with organizational matters. I felt a little bad going down to the party while Ron was working, you know? But, as I went down the afterdeck ladder I saw that one of our boats coming back from the shore was in trouble. They were taking water over the side. And so I started an emergency handling with some of the crew and took off all my clothes down to my underpants and went over the side. And we finally rescued this boat and pulled it up. It took about two hours while everybody else was in there dancing and partying, you see.

And Ron had heard about this. He even came out of his office and watched over the side to see if we were doing OK. Meanwhile he sent an order to the engine-room to get the engines moving so that he could move the ship around to put us in the lee, so that the wind would not blow against the waves into the boat anymore. And when he'd made sure everybody was safe, he went back to his office and carried on his work.

So about midnight I was all wet and dripping as I came past his office again going up to my cabin to get on some dry clothes. And he signaled to me in the window, he said: "Come in here!" And he ordered one of the messengers to get a blanket and to bring brandy. And he sat down with me at a small coffee-table in his office where he had breakfast with Mary Sue every day. Then he poured out the brandy for us and we sat back and he said: "seat was well done, Captain." And, "I know some stories of the sea, you know, and this is the kind of thing you have to do as Captain." And he told me some stories of the old sea-times back in the Roman empire.

So, after we had a few glasses of brandy, everything was nice and warm and dry and then he just said: "I'm sorry you missed the party, but I think you had more fun doing that rescue operation."

Do you understand what I'm saying? When I walked past his office before he had read my mind, he knew I was feeling a little bad about going to a party while he was working, so he actually worded it in such a way where it sort of pulled the missed withhold and made it OK.

Another time I want to tell you about is when we were in Madeira during the "Rock Festival" where the CIA had tried to get the communist party of Portugal to destroy our ship and bum it to the water-line. When this started, I had seen them coming - a mob of 200 or 300 people with rocks and with Molotov Cocktails (gasoline in wine bottles) and I had pulled up the gangway and gotten everyone at what is called "Repelling Boarders station" which means to stop unauthorized persons from getting aboard the ship. And I had informed Ron and he came out and gave me the direction of the defense against these people. They were throwing stones, bricks and burning Molotov cocktails on board and we had hoses to put out the fires and whenever they would try to climb aboard we would hit them on their hands with rubber hoses or anything we had available, and when they threw rocks on board, we would throw the rocks back at them. And we held them off for an hour and a half.

And it was very successful, not one of those guys got on board the ship. And Ron had coordinated it so that everyone not in the battle, (we were fighting using just the ships' crew), and so the admin people had to stay below deck so they wouldn't get hurt.

And he had come back out on the deck right in the middle of all this and started to take photographs of the ring leaders of the mob out on the dock, because there were certain "provocateurs" out there - urging all the other people to attack while they stayed in the back. And Ron was taking pictures of them for the evidence. Some of the people that were working for Ron in his own area kept saying: "Sir, get below, get below, it's dangerous!" The mob was throwing fire-bombs and rocks and everything at us, you know! And Ron said: "No, we've got to get the ring-leaders here, because this must be brought before the Portuguese government and these people must be brought to trial."

We had also telephoned – using the ship's radiotelephone - to the port police and they finally came with about 50 people in jeeps with machine-guns and they finally got the mob to move away.

So notice there, that this is supposed to be a man who is a "coward", who is not thinking "rationally". And yet he already had the future of this incident planned out of how to take these people to court. And he did and he won the suit.

One more time I want to tell you about before we end off, and that is: You have probably heard these stories about Ron being like – weird – about the kind of food he likes, and that he liked everything to be totally clean and everything like that, and the authors who write this, try to make him out to be some kind of a Howard Hughes crazy guy, you see? But what they fail to mention – the people that give these stories – is that we were in the tropical and sub-tropical seas and lands of the planet down around Africa. And the biggest problem with human health down there is a disease called cholera. And another very bad thing to catch down there is called malaria. And Ron had made the whole crew study books about the cleanliness of food and of personal clothing and also how to keep healthy in tropical climates.

And as Captain of the ship I had to put in these rules for all the - by this time four hundred - people on the ship. So not only just Ron, but a of us four hundred people had very clean, hygienic food, very clean, hygienic clothing, we washed our clothes every day, we had air-filters put in on the ship, so that no mosquitoes or anything could get inside the ship and the air was totally pure. All of us shared in that. And the people that wrote those words blamed it, blamed their own health on LRH, because they didn't seem to remember that it was for everybody on the ship to protect their health so that they could continue up the Bridge, and continue to do their Fourth and Third Dynamic missions.

Looks like a different story, doesn't it ? Not what you've read in the books, Huh? Some omitted data. Those same people, that in their missed-withhold state contributed to those books, would probably have been dead by now if Ron hadn't taken care of them all the time they were in the Sea Org. And for those of you hearing this tape that are only stuck on their First and Second Dynamics, I will say, "How would you like to have a "family" of four hundred men and women to take care of?" Figure it out!

And just a short ending here... Ron was looking over the side of the ship one time the Apollo – leaning on the rail, you know, just looking out, and I came up and leaned on the rail and said: "Good evening, sir, how's it going?" And we were out at sea and it was early nighttime and you could see the stars out there, an over, very clear. And he said: "You know, Captain. I have a lot of work to do out there" (pointing to the stars). And he said: "I only have one problem." And he said: "This body" (pointing to his own body), and said: "It's become a symbol." He said, "I have to figure out some way, where I can go do my job out there and leave the body so that nobody would be too sad about the loss of a symbol". And I looked at him and I said: "Well, that's something I couldn't help you with, sir. I mean, I couldn't figure out how..." And I said, "But I understand it." And he said: "Yes, that's why I'm talking to you, you would understand it." But he said: "I'm not ready yet, but in a few years I will have to do it, because there are situations out there that I have to handle."

And it was shortly after that that he must have figured out exactly how to do it, because that's when the ships were sold, he moved into the US, made the technical films, the movies, the books that he wrote, and then he went off to do his job.

And if you've been keeping up with the Sector 9, the Teegeeack, the music albums and so on, you will know that Elron Elray, formerly the body of L. Ron Hubbard here on earth, but Elron Elray... is now the president or the chairman of the Grand Council of this Galaxy, in Sector 0. And I tried to explain the strategy of what is happening, galactic and intergalactic, in the UFO videos, which you can buy if you haven't seen the lecture. And in the "Intergalactic Decree" you see one of the results of his work, so that there can be control put in on the "gray invaders" – the Andromedans that are working with the implanters. Because these are things and events which are occurring off of this planet but which have a great effect on the future of this planet.

So I want to tell you that there are many more Dynamics, that LRH, Ron, Elron Elray, operates on, and he is still doing so and still continuing his missions.

Thank you very much.

(End of Lecture - given on 21 Oct 1990 at the OT Convention  near Paris, France by Capt. W.B.Robertson)