Capt. Bill Robertson and others
Marbella (12.11.1983)
You can listen to it on Youtub: https://youtu.be/mEEHxH1uOtY
This transcript starts at 16:50 minutes.
... what LRH was looking at was their control level of the planet on the 4th dynamic, right? And what he saw essentially was a takeover push theses guys are trying with all their magic and black magic and that.
But he also saw something deeper than that… that these guys have a long track of implants… implanting… not getting them but giving… They escaped a lot of implants but they were giving them. So they are the guys… they are really suppressive… they want to suppress beings… that’s their history right? They have their own philosophy of organization, they have an own philosophy on control, they have an own philosophy of taking over a planet.
Marcabians, yeah… that’s how you refer to them… They are a group that has a similar civilization as they want to put here on Earth, in the planetary system called Marcab. They are trying to put the same kind of system here. Right now there are only about 200.000 of them on Earth right now.
Q: How can you handle them?
Very easily… when you see them. You can’t miss them, because they have a certain theta recognition… they look black… They look black as a thetan. With most people you can see a nice glowing around… an energy field… but these guys energy field is black.
But the thing is… they try to use beams and energy flows which an OT doesn’t need. You know on a scale you go up through action level. … They use this black energy all the time.
First recognize that it can happen… you run into a guy.
Second thing is to “don’t introvert”. You understand? Don’t introvert yourself. Because most people when they are confronted with one of theses guys will start looking inside… “what’s happening to me”? Instead of “who’s doing that?” And then you can play a game… if you rise up to the level of “hey… he’s putting a black beam out” and just let it go through… It can’t hurt you. It can only hurt you if you decide that it’s something you’re doing…
As a Scientologist you realize the power of any postulate is that the thetan agrees with it. So he tries to put a flow out that says “you’re sick”. You see? So when you get the flow …… (laughter)
In Switzerland I can take you to a place where they all meet… and drink…
I went to a room in Basel. Under P. AG (editor: a think tank... actual name deleted) they have a club called Golden Gate…
Very interesting… gold by the way… where they tell you not to buy it… in the newspapers and all that… that’s when they are buying the gold. When they tell you to buy, that’s when they are selling it. So anyway that’s one of the economic controls they have with this scenario.
So I went to this club. I was checking up P. AG, and they were closed at that time… I had an ethics order deliver to them, which I did… I delivered it to the director there… put it in his slot… But anyway it was closed at that time and I got it into his mailbox, and then I went down to this club thinking maybe there are some guys knowing what’s going on in here… and I walked in there in that room and … god damn… shades of the whole track man… there’s a f... 18 Marcabians in here… I was just walking along… thinking hey… here they are… all the guys who work for P. were sitting in the private club down there…
So I walk over to the bar… and I sit down on the bar… By they way they’re almost always male… They always take male bodies… because in Marcab status is big thing right… and the male has status and the women don’t… Very rarely finding a Marcabian picking up a female body… But there are many women who are influences and under easy control of the Marcabians… So they may operate for the guy. Although I have seen a couple in women's body but these were usually women that went to business you know…
It’s only they took that body because they had a powerful inheritance or money or whatever.. Only female child or something like that… that they have to carry on the inheritance line… into that game… they get into the body of their grand child so they will inherit in themselves and stuff like that. Other Thetans have done that too… but they do it more to keep the power line.
See… I walked in there getting a beer and all these guys sitting there… they were all on something different… and whatever they do they stopped talking… everybody in the room stopped talking…
You know it’s a public bar.. club… so I sat down and that moment… beam… eighteen beams at once… And I was sitting there and I was just laughing because it proved out my final point on the evaluation you know… this is where they’re operating from… I was laughing… got the right "why"… got the "who’s"… and I’m drinking my beer… looking at theses guys… having seen them for a long time… beam… it was all going through… bouncing off the walls… the whole place you know…
And then they got worried… the guy is confronting. I wasn’t afraid of them or any like that… they were all beaming. The whole place was quiet. Even the girls who were not Marcabian… what’s going on? What’s going on? And then they looked at each other… who is that? No words. I sat there and I put out an intention… to these guys… and I say… I put up who I was… one of the guys who worked for Ron… works for Ron… from the (Galactic) Patrol… and they act like humans again… start talking again… looking worried… so I just paid for my beer and walked out… because that’s one beingness they cannot confront… a person who knows their own whole track… and knows that these guys are all implanters…
Female voice: Let me tell you something… One of the guys in Copenhagen was lifting the implants off of them. Got a guy his name is J. Strasburg who is very grateful… you can take it or leave it as you like… he contacted a lot of guys…
Bill: BTW J. Srasburg is not a Marcabian… he is not one of those guys…
Mr. J’s control line was from off planet… originally… he’s a counselor of a bout 12 guys in Switzerland… and they are all Marcabians all those guys… but his control line comes from off planet. He’s from the planet Marcab… the guy there is an Ambassador to the Central Galactic Council… for Marcab… And there’s another guy who is their protector in the Great Council as a representative for Marcab… So that’s their line basically. And we tried to cut that line at several points… you know and handle the being… handle that aberration…
What LRH did was to get the Free Zone Decree pushed through…
They’re following it. The funny thing is, last November the 10th, I got theta (telepathic) communication from LRH that this decree is now legal and binding on all planets in this whole sector.
Q: So it’s not only on Earth?
Bill: Oh no, it’s been pushed through at Central and it’s a decree that tells that there should be no more atomic, biological, chemical warfare on this planet. And right after that we start having all that stuff about the guys… “no more warfare…” and even the Marcabians pushing that… cool it down cool it down…
See, because if they do that, if they fail to obey that, than they become outcast, you see what I mean? They become outcast and the whole idea of takeover bid of this planet won’t work. We know everything about these guys. Their target date for complete planetary control is January 12, 1991. That’s the target date.
At that point they want to have complete control of all the governments of all first, second, third world countries. Enough so that they can actually get them to agree, and they will have, right before that, say around 1990 or 88 , 89.. they will have big news of making the first contact with an extra-terrestrial civilization… probably Marcab. And that these people want to make a trade agreement with us or some kind of treaty with us … because they say... hey... gee… these guys are just like us…
LRH describes Marcab… he says its just like Wall Street… in New York. They wear business suits… jet planes… And he says they are a very controlled society.. everything has a place… and its all totally suppressed and held in place by conformity and status, like a caste-system. And their isn’t much chance to get free in this society because it’s totally regulated and controlled if anybody objects being implanted… that makes them slaves.
And the reason there is 200.000 on the planet is because that are 200.000 junior executives, that came here and hope they will get status. They would become the nucleus of the control operation on the annexed… you see, because this is the whole thing with the Free Zone Decree. It declares that Earth is not going to have no more atomic, biological, chemical warfare, and the experiment of LRH was not be interfered with… The technical and ethical experiment is not to be interfered with from off-planet sources. So since November the 10th last year there wasn’t interference for a long time. Very evident for anyone who has the OT-awareness on what’s going on from outside… no more interference…
Now the whole game became “this planet is a free zone”. It can determine its own destiny.
LRH pushed that through. You understand? So the whole planet is now a Free Zone. As far as anybody outside is concerned. It determines its own destiny.
Therefore, as a fourth dynamic destiny... in other words, it’s not one country who can determine it. That was the assembled voting’s of the nations representing all the people on the planet. They have to have some kind of a majority vote that says we want our destiny to be this.
Now they need to decide to be either to annexed be Marcab, annexed to another system that has sort of Japanese looking guys on it… etc, etc. You see, there’s a whole bunch of different systems.
Or they can decide to remain a Free Zone planet and to create its own future… you know like its not part of any NATO… you know what I mean? It would not be part of another political complex… and it would have its own representatives in the Grand Council…
You see what LRH is putting in this RTS-film is, he shows the entire organization that was there long ago and which is still there… it’s even bigger. All that organization is still there. Its been in the film which shows how it was all restored… how this planet was ruined… And first this was a forbidden area… This whole planet was a Non-Interference-Zone… It was used for everything you know… dumping… slave planet… whatever… place to get rid of people at.
And then they started… it became later on… when LRH decided to do the Scientology-experiment here… long mission… it started about 3.500 years ago… with Buddhism… to get people cognizing that they’d be thetans again… And then that went on… it was decided – like he said on this tape tonight – we now have a place.. a breathing space where man is in control over the machines and the machines are not in control over him… Cause he had to have the machines for duplication… for communication… the e-meters… for all the things which are necessary to give a guy enough time to stand up and get audited…
Realize that… ever since Buddhism was analyzing what would be needed, for this Buddhism… if you study Buddhism very carefully you find that it broke down on a long communication line… by the time you got up into long communication line… with Japan… with Borneo or India or something… it got altered. And so you got the break-off into different Buddhist… you have Zen-Buddhism in Japan, we have Hinayana –Buddhism… and the guys who sell the little Buddhist dolls and thing that is Buddhism… you have the other guys… pure Buddhist who live up in the mountains… you see you’ve got all the different types of Buddhist, not different legal structures, but different tech of Buddhism. And so it was obvious… the whole thing was that it didn’t have fast communication lines … it didn’t have the proper indication device to be used on an energy-field for a thetan to communicate where the charge was. Everybody (was supposed) to be bodhi in theses days… you could get some of them… you couldn’t get them all…
The mission was to build up the civilization to a point to get the commlines in around… to get trade going… to a point where you can have that kind of stuff. That was going on for years and years and years… and also storing up reserves for that time… you know reserves of people, reserves of civilization type things like the Romans were building roads and stuff like that… and getting fast commlines going.
But knowing that the guys that were doing that were in Buddhism and they went on, they’re going to get more aberrated as they continue to live on the planet… cycles of live and death… and so it got a bit harder and harder… so finally he (LRH) started picking up again. Picking up again to get a bit more civilization on the planet right? And then the machine age comes… A lot of theses inventors… if you trace them back… the whole of modern civilization you find that a hand full of guys started it… a hand full of inventors… just a few guys invented the basics in this today’s civilization… like electricity. You probably had two or three guys involved in electricity basics, and the they still are using this today. You see… if you trace it all back it isn’t “the civilization developed electricity”… that’s a generality… It was two or three guys who worked on that stuff and got it all going. You know what I mean?
The same with medicine…
So it finally gets up there… its finally the right time…
LRH comes in right after the atom bomb… the thing is getting a bit hairy, you know when you wait too long, the guys might get crazy… so he got right in there and there it was… Scientology coming… bapbapbapbap… all the years of research and so on… on this planet… not that’s an easy one to handle, it’s probably the roughest one in the whole universe to handle because it has all the cases here of every type. What for a better place to this type of an experiment… So he got it all going, right?
And the next thing… the Dianetic guys, the foundation of Dianetics said he couldn’t research into past lives. We know theses guys were influenced by these Illuminati. They didn’t want to have anybody believing in their past lives, because it is very hard to suppress somebody if they’re other than mortal. This is a-priority if you believe you have a past life that you know you have a future… see? And once you do that thing like insurance companies… they don’t bug you anymore… And you can always leave yourself a will, you know…for your next body.
So you can play the same game the Marcabians are playing.
Male voice: That’s what they say is the most highly kept secret of the Freemasons.
CBR: It is the most high secret… that a person can raise to a state where he can knowingly choose his next body.
Male voice: Yes… exactly that…
CBR: That is the highest kept secret… … I didn’t read anything to find it out… I found that out by data-analysis of the game on the fourth dynamic, I said what is the most secret thing they’re trying to keep? What would blow their whole game strategy? That fact. That’s the one who is most heavily suppressed, by science now, by newspapers, by magazines… you know what I mean?
So what we are looking at, is this game. You see, Scientology was running into the teeth of this. But wait. Scientology is been going for 3.500 years, but these guys only have started their game to take over the planet and control it 350 years ago. We are the one’s who have been here longest. We are the one who try to clear the planet and make people to go up the bridge and take their place again in the universal civilization… if they want to, and help it. Cause those guys out there need auditing too. You know what I mean. They have the same problems. They have the same upsets… they have the same thing.
LRH tells you on one of the early tapes – or was it on the Briefing-Course tapes… I’m not sure… but the basic idea was that throughout the history of this universe spiritual beings have been going on a down-spiral. In other words… in each lifetime more overts (harmful act against an area of life) or this and that and it will lessen your ability. The down-spirals is been going, and the whole worry of any large enough government in the Galaxy has been “how do we get people more able?” Because we’re getting worse and worse… They were worried because they were the top guys… and they realized that when they get through lifetimes that they were getting not quite as able as they could before… Usually they put out a beam and make a hole in the wall, or maybe they could exteriorize very easily… and now it came… it’s like they’re aging… getting worse. They didn’t know about bank and pictures and all that. They didn’t have any tech on it. So LRH has been…
Q: Do they have the tech there?
Well, let’s put it this way. This experiment is not complete. All the technical records of LRH’s books, tapes etc. like that has been put away in save keeping… off planet. He saw for that… even in PDC-times… in 1952 he was giving copies of all of his works to… In fact, I got this story from two guys I totally trust… the Philadelphia Doctorate Course, that’s when I first heard of it… but since than I realized it was true… all of his works… copies are picked up by a ship, taking back and putting it into archives… safe place… in Central, until the experiments are over. They’re not going to release it until the experiment is over. The two guys there they were asked to fly a plane up with books and things he has just written and hover over a certain point and waiting for a contact… and then hand the books over. They were just in a plane 2000 feet over the earth, and a storm came up and they came back to report to LHR and he says… don’t worry about it I’ll get them there another way… And they went aha… because they knew that in no way a plane could contact you up there, because nobody could stop them, I mean, no earth technology could stop a plane but these guys were just hovering (unintelligible).
So, ah… he said ok I get them there another way… but he told them to give it to a ship…
Anyway that was just to… so he was putting it back to Central…
So the technical part is finished, but not the admin part. In other words if you invent a weapon, just as it says in the tapes, when you invent a weapon, you invent any weapon… before you use that weapon, you better have the defense.
So you got to have something which keeps Scientology from being used black. Take it as you will but the reality level or my reality level is, that shield or that prevention for Scientology is being used black are the OTs…. The products of Scientology… ethical OTs. So that is the protection. Not David Miscavige… not the GO… not the lawyers… that’s all bullshit. It’s the OTs. They are the protection… the protection shield of Scientology. They will keep it standard…
Now that is, as I told one group in Spain… I said, “look you may not like it to be a part of an experiment, but when you look at it, you are to be happy that you are part of it because the only alternative to that is being a slave“… Because you’re getting the first chance of anyone in the universe to get the whole benefits of the technology… the first people in the universe…
And it raised a lot of interests from other systems before the Free Zone Decree came out saying… hey, everybody leave it alone politically, leave it alone economically, let them work it out on the planet… the tech is in there, the organizational experiment is going on… now let’s see what happens. Let’s see if the OTs can handle the Marcabian guys.
Male voice: Yeah… but they’re not complying, are they?
Bill: They might at first but they are now. Once they slipped in 200.000 guys and now they are forced to comply. They had them in first… right before the decree came out they went wooommm and they got their guys in here… Marcab as the strike force, to take important positions, bodies in important positions…
Female voice: Did the take up grown up bodies? Adult bodies?
Bill: They took over positions in authority and control… male bodies… 99% male bodies… in banking, government politics, some military posts… but most they are in business corporations and banking… and politics. Some of them… maybe three or for they gave over to the Scientology over there.
But they congregate in a large… you see they’re status oriented… totally status oriented… you won’t find any of them in Spain at all, in fact I don’t have found one Marcabian in Spain… I might have found one… or two… but I haven’t seen them yet.
Female voice: Why? No status?
Bill: No status… They consider it Third World country. However, they became very interested in last year, for some reason… ???? and they started recruiting this guy ??? (Deltrance) in Barcelona, which we… cause he tried to recruit us for him… he’s already been hatted by the Club of Rome ????
Female voice: How it comes they have so much power… if they have so many overts (criminal acts on their hands)?
Bill: They don’t have much power… they just know… just like you know, that you’re an immortal being. They basically can influence a guy, just like a Scientologist can… You know he’d say… dad… mom… when you die… here’s a nice baby that belongs to my sister… why don’t you pick that one up… and they will? The Scientologists they just do it with assists. Anybody can do it.
These guys… you have to realize.. if you can take a beam… if you’re really evil you take a beam and put it on somebody and say “you’re sick and you’re going to die”… not verbally but just ??? They guy starts to feel sick and dies.
They also have some little ultra-sonic vibration devices invented… they have them already in the CIA and all that…
You can make the guy who controls the body… it infects the simple nervous system. And you just get the guy privately one time… it’s carried in a little briefcase like this and … zzzzzzzzzz…. And the guy goes rrrroooowww and he falls down. In that moment he’s totally helpless. His body… the nerves won’t work and all that… and he thinks he’s dead… and then put a little black beam in there which says “you’re dead… report back…” and in goes the implant. You see? They then just take the body, get up and go back to business… It’s very simple… it’s not difficult…
Male voice: Incredible… you know that’s exactly the stuff I’ve read. (chatting…. ) I have the data… I’ve read it in their book.
Bill: That happened to David Miscavige… It’s obvious.
Male voice: They even say how to build it.
Bill: The funny thing is… this is not difficult when you are dealing with one. They cannot do this to Scientologists. Unless the Scientologist agrees. They are only effect of it when they think it’s something of them… that they do it. I met other people on NOTs (high auditing level in Scientology) who do it very well. They say… hey that was funny… it wasn’t something of mine… there’s a beam… you see? It comes from somewhere else. And they spot it… and they don’t die… You see what I mean… For a NOTs-person is so powerful… that if they decide that this is something I must be doing and they put their whole power and postulate into that concept of, you know… you’re sick… you die… they put their power into it.
Female voice: In other words… don’t introvert.
Bill: Don’t introvert.
Male voice: This is the very interesting thing on that… because I’ve been touring around, looking for people who are splintering or whatever… within the last month. We had the same phenomenon in Zurich and all that… and these postulates… even… the higher the guy is… NOTs… Solo-NOTs… the harder the time he will have…
Bill: He’s more powerful… his postulates are more powerful… and when he turn them against himself, he hurts himself…
Male voice: Yes… It happened to all these people. I was going around… and I was having this data… and I said… aah… and I was asking the questions… is it from you? Is it from somewhere else? And they will all go… wow… yeah… it come from over there… and they would cognite… They all had the same phenomena… they thought they would drop the body… And these are people on solo-NOTs… You know some people had a hard time… over two months… to keep it…
Bill: Let me tell you something… NOTs is very juicy… for a Marcabian… look… it’s totally cleaned up… it’s a clean body… it doesn’t have any mental mass, energy, space and time around, it handled it’s space around there… it’s a very nice body to get… Very nice… because it’s clean… You understand… it’s clean. So if the guy on NOTs is being enforced with this idea of “no… don’t listen to anybody…” and the guy hadn’t done the PDC course or something like that… he didn’t know about ???… he didn’t know about implants… “what’s this… what’s this… I’m supposed to die? What’s this… drop the body…”… And if he agrees that it’s his postulate… that’s it…
Male voice: exactly… we had that so many times… (skipped the examples..)
Bill: You realize that before… before a few years ago… you can listen to LRH’s tapes… this kind of stuff... after a while on Flag it got very suppressed on the communication lines… nobody could talk about this stuff… not even be mentioned… I wouldn’t even be mentioning this stuff because it was too high level for most people.. I wouldn’t mention it unless it was a matter of utmost survival… Anybody who’s playing the game outside the controlled church… anybody as a Scientologist has to know this data… for their own survival… and if you handle it with TRs, no matter on what level they are… if they can do TR 0 they’re done.
I tell you that, you know… it doesn’t matter what case shape you are in… you just do TR0 and you’re fine…
No… this is very true… nobody can do you anything unless you agree to the other’s person consideration.
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If they really took a look… look at the intention… is it a good one? Is it bad? You see it’s a bad one… OK… now… who are the guys who are carrying it out? Well they are showing their bad intention. Right? Although not all of those guys are bad, you know? But you realize that the are totally under the control of somebody on the top, putting that bad intention down the line… So by definition they’ve gone in that valance a little bit… enough to agree with it… and they have moved their logic, evaluation and policy knowledge and everything aside in that area to the guy who’s pushing that bad intention, you see. Not looking at the freedom of the Scientology, but looking at the control over Scientologists… See? That’s a different thing.
We found out when you talk to these guys… like Gaiman and someone like that… they only go a little way… they agree on certain things that they agree on… but their intention never changes… very weird thing…Cause usually you can go and talk to Scientologists and they as-is it… but they can’t… They have this partly SP valences… and rollercoaster… in fact I’ve seen them start cogniting a couple of times. They start to cognite but then they can’t…
Male voice: this is too much… there were a couple of times… yeah… you saw a little interest come up? And then immediately the body would roll… you know what I mean? Like convulsions? Because on that chair, he was going like this some times… and then it was over… that’s it. It’s very interesting phenomena yeah. Because they start seeing it… a little bit…
Bill: Yes… a little bit. Because the good part of the guy is suppressed, you see?
Miscavige he’d been taken over… from my reports… everybody that has seen him, in the past 3 or 4 years… I’ve known him before that… he wasn’t like he is now. The takeover must have occurred… I don’t know… 1981-82 or something… He went from a guy who was doing avidly his OT3… to a guy who is totally suppressive… without a question… you understand… he create his own problem. Aside of spitting on people and that stuff… everything you hear about him is totally psychotic… right? But it fits perfectly with my experience with implanters. Like they hate people who are going free. Because that means that their work is not working… their job is in danger with these guys who are getting out of it… you see? Their products are overt products to us but for them they’re a normal product… The normal product for the is… a guy should be suppressed… he should be held in position… he should obey… he should be totally controlled… I have a status and he doesn’t have any… and he does what I say… It didn’t work like that… If the guy doesn’t do it… a….
In fact they are very stupid. These guys are not smart… You see, one of the indicators…
So anyway… the stupidity of these guys, carrying out like SPs (suppressive persons)… they hit the wrong target… they always hit the wrong target… they are following the characteristics of an SP. The interesting point about this guys… they have to throw away the Data Series… they can not evaluate anymore. You have to stop evaluating. Do you understand the significance of that? They already have the solution. That was the ideal scene… If they think about anything logically, is to push everything into that mould of total control…
Its just like Russia… it’s all controlled by one guy at the top.
Male voice: This is the point I’m looking at… We were talking about a breathing period for Scientology to be able to start… it started 3.500 years ago… but to expand now. But they are using the same time. Because what would these Marcab guys have done these years ago… having no computers, no control, no plastic cards… nothing… They’re after stacking exactly to the same thing… they have a small period of time to take control as well.
What I want to ask you… you have data about the 5th invader and all that… how does that fit with these guys?
Bill: It fits very well actually… if you hear the tape… where he talks about the base on Mars, and space station 33… the asteroid belt where the ships come in… yeah it’s still all out there…
Male voice: But they are not the same guys…
Bill: Well, no… the Marcabians did the base on Mars… they still have it… It is their base… the Marcab base… You call them as an invader force… it’s the 4th…
Male voice: Yes.. 4th is on Mars… 5th is Venus…
Bill: The 4th guys they also colonized the Marcabian system when they came, but now they own that… they run that base. The base is being patrolled right now to make sure there is no illegal communication with Earth…
Bill: They align with the fourth wave… who colonized the Marcabian area. They were the old conservative implanters… that’s them.
Male voice: The Holding operation…
Bill: We want to get before 1991 we want to get enough people interested in the civilization, so that they can make a decision. We have at least two alternatives on the fourth dynamic… Right now we are the only ones out in the open. So we actually want to come out with it overtly first. You understand… the proposal for the fourth dynamic (mankind). Cause the other guys are doing it covertly… very covertly right?
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