Subject: Re: other data re my story
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 01:59:39 -0700
From: "Virginia"
To: "Freie Zone e.V."
... Here are the posts I was talking about.
first is original refund request letter (in case I haven't sent it before)
May 9, 2000
Treasury Secretary
Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization
210 S. Ft Harrison
Clearwater, Fla
34616
Dear Sir/Madam,
As you know, I have withdrawn my membership to what is called "The Church of Scientology", due to fraudulent misrepresentation of LRH written works, that are not factually written by LRH.
I have spent 25 years training, and processing with Scientology technology.
I still remain a scientologist, loyal to the original teachings, and writings of L. Ron Hubbard.
Most Recently I was auditing on OT VII, one of the highest levels obtainable in the Church, up until approximately 1 1/2 years ago.
I discovered that Lrh's HCOB C/S Series 73 RA, which was 12 pages long, had been edited and rewritten by RTRC I/C, to where the "new" issue (C/S Series 73RB), had SEVEN PAGES deleted of Lrh's writings. In direct violation of BOTH of these versions, (one LRH, one not), as an OT VII, I was ordered to pay for a "security check" to "renew my eligibility", every six months. I also received other auditing actions I was not supposed to be doing per the above references, which I also had to pay for.
I was on OT VII for almost 9 years, essentially my entire history of auditing at the Church of Scientology FSO. I was sold services that were represented to be "written by Lrh", which were not, as is easily provable.
This is Fraud.
As a scientologist, I would never have paid for these services, if the services were correctly represented as written by someone else. I thought that I was getting "pure, unadulterated Lrh”, as RTC represents it, and so I purchased these services in good faith.
Upon bringing this gross alteration and misrepresentation of Lrh's work to the attention of Church management, as well as other scientologists, the following actions were taken by Scientology- related entities, or Scientology-related individuals:
All of these actions, as well as the fraud itself, are in direct violation of the 1993 IRS/Church tax exemption agreement D. Certifications section C. "that no Scientology-related entity or Scientolology-related individual (in his or her capacity as such) has after 1986 knowingly committed any act of fraud or criminal conduct that might constitute a violation of public policy endangering the tax-exempt status of any Scientology-related entity."
Since there has been knowing acts of fraud and criminal conduct in regards to myself, as well as my husband, I am hereby reporting all of the above to the appropriate IRS officials, in charge of enforcing these rules.
To avoid a possible highly public lawsuit, I request the following:
Cashier's check or money order to be sent to:
Virginia McClaughry (Mike McClaughry for #4 above)
... (deleted)
Sincerely,
Virginia McClaughry
cc: Lisa Mcpherson Trust
cc: Dan Liepold, attorney at law
cc: IRS Assistant Commissioner Employee Plans and Exempt Organizations
cc: Exempt Organizations Area Manager, Pacific Coast
cc: Captain Fso
cc: President Fso
cc: LRH comm
cc: Osa Int Mike Rinder
cc: Ben Shaw
cc: RTC David Miscaviage
cc: Sandcastle Reg Hy Levy
cc: Ed Int
cc: President IAS
cc: Treasury IAS
---next answers
Ok, here is the COFSFSO's response-pretty entertaining :)
Dear Mrs. McClaughry,
I am in receipt of your letter of May 9, 2000 and am authorized to respond to your request for return of donations you made to the Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization (CSFSO). I cannot assist you in your demands regarding the International Association of Scientologists; you should contact them directly.
As far as your donations to the CSFSO are concerned, there is no basis in Church policy for your demand of refund. As you have asserted in your letter, you are well aware of Church policy on this subject, and have signed enrollment forms which clearly state that you will abide by the policies of the Claims Verification Board in seeking any return of donations. Those forms specifically confirmed that you "understand, acknowledge and agree that the Church is under no duty whatsoever to return any portion of any religious donation received from me." In the event of any dispute, you pledged to apply Church policy and submit any such dispute to Binding Religious Arbitration in accordance with the published arbitration procedures of the Church. And you forever waived the right to pursue any dispute with the Church in any court of law.
I have attached a copy of your current statement of account, which does show a balance of $1009.23.
As for the openly expressed threats in your letter, the allegations you make are fabrications, and I have passed your letter on to counsel. As I am sure you are aware, your letter is a virtual carbon copy of one from Greg and Debra Barnes. Counsel has advised on the relevant law concerning such threats and the willful misrepresentations underlying them. I am now seeking further advice on whether influencing others to engage in such conduct is separately actionable.
Your false claims of loyalty to the original teachings of L. Ron Hubbard are belied by your association with Robert Minton, the man who advocated burning the Founder in effigy on L. Ron Hubbard Way. You have chosen to abandon the gift LRH provided to mankind and associate with those who publicly and repeatedly defile his name. This is your choice. But to claim loyalty to his legacy is beyond disingenuous.
Your only hope at this point is steps A-E of HCOPL 23 December 1965RB, SUPPRESSIVE ACTS, SUPPRESSION OF SCIENTOLOGY AND SCIENTOLOGISTS. I suggest you read and apply policy.
Please confirm that the repayment figure above matches your own records. Should you then inform me that you still wish to proceed and request the repayment, I will then process a check and we can arrange to exchange a signed release and waiver for the repayment.
Sincerely,
(sig)
Glen Stilo
503 Clevleand Street
Clearwater, Florida 33755
Isn't that OSA's address guys? :)
June 8, 2000
Glen Stilo
Office of Special Affairs
Church of Scientology
503 Cleveland Street
Clearwater, Florida
33755
Dear Mr. Stilo,
I am in receipt of your letter dated May 25, 2000.
Acknowledged re: IAS, I have contacted them directly.
In regards to these "forms" that I have signed, I am sure you must have copies of these forms with my signature on them. Send complete copies to the same address as your last letter.
As you already have conferred with counsel, I am sure you are aware of the fact that no one can be bound by an agreement to forever waive their rights......, especially in situations where fraud or misrepresentation were a factor, even if not discovered until a later date.
Regarding Greg and Debra Barnes letter; any similarities in our letters I am sure are due to the fact that we were all treated similarly by the Church, in violation of the laws of the land, as well as the religious teachings and technology of LRH.
You should definitely seek advice from counsel, however it should be concerning whether it is wise or not to bring this issue (C/S Series 73RA or RB) to view, especially in light of recent testimony for the Church, in the Minton trial. Specifically the portion of the testimony where it was admitted that no policies can be changed after LRH died.
I have proof that they have.
Trying to intimidate me with false accusations of "willfull misrepresentations", when as far as I am concerned the Church of Scientology FSO is willfully misrepresenting non-LRH services and materials as pure LRH, is disingenuous to an extreme.
In regards to my account;
Regarding the full refund of misrepresented services, My demand stands.
I expect a check for the full amount of my donations to the Church of Scientology FSO, within 2 weeks of receipt of this letter.
The appropriate governmental agencies are being apprised of these events, as well as other concerned public agencies and individuals.
Sincerely,
Virginia McClaughry
3407 W. Summerfield Rd.
Post Falls, Idaho
83854
cc: Lisa Mcpherson Trust
cc: Dan Liepold attorney at law
cc: IRS Assistant Commissioner Employee Plans and Exempt Organizations
cc: United States Justice Department
cc: ACLU
cc: Lowell Bergmann Investigative Reporter
Are we having fun yet? :)
Virginia
----------------next ias answers
Dear Ms. McClaughry:
We are in receipt of your request of a return of your donations to the IAS.
The rules of the IAS clearly state that contributions are not refundable.
This rule is set forth on the IAS membership form. You acknowledged your understanding of this policy when you signed this form.
Please advise if you have further information regarding this matter you would like me to consider.
Sincerely,
(sig)
Lise Cohee
Legal Affairs Director
IAS Administrations
on behalf of the IAS
Lise Cohee
Legal Affairs Director
IAS Administrations
on behalf of the IAS
Dear Lise,
Thank you for your response to my request for refund of my IAS donation.
In regards to these "forms" that I have signed, I am sure you must have copies of these forms with my signature on them. Send complete copies to the same address as your last letter.
At the time of donating 2000.00 for my lifetime membership, I was represented that the purpose of the IAS was:
In addition to the above purpose of the IAS, I was also represented that:
Another benefit I was represented of being a lifetime member is that I personally would be defended should I ever have a situation such as nbr 2 above.
These benefits, some verbal, some in writing, were represented to me by Bridget Kelleher, authorized IAS representative, and Sea org member.
After consulting with counsel, it is my understanding that a contract, or "signed form", can always be contested when there could be misrepresentation or fraud involved.
Let's cover the points briefly that are misrepresentation and/or fraud, as far as I am concerned.
Point 1 above: I have evidence of direct alteration of standard Scientology.
One particularly gross example of which is C/S Series 73RA, as covered in my original letter to you. IAS to my knowledge has done nothing to correct this situation, despite it being one of it's primary objectives, as represented to me by Bridget.
Point 2 above: I wished to apply LRH standardly regarding the sec checking of Solo Nots Pre-ot's, which LRH specifically did not want done as a rule.
I received no help defending me from the reverse auditing, massive black PR campaign, illegal detention, etc, from the IAS. The above actions constitute religious discrimination of the practice of LRH's religious writings, and point 2 above should have been done as promised and paid for.
Point 3 above: Counsel has advised me that this constitutes an enforced membership, which can be contested.
Point 4 above: As far as I am concerned this is fraud and misrepresentation, as there are numerous examples in my possession of how LRH's technology has been altered since his death, and this is what is being "spread" currently.
I would never have donated money to the IAS, had I been correctly given the facts on what exactly the IAS is going to spreading, or that I would not be assisted or defended in practicing LRH's technology, in it's unaltered form.
In light of all the above additional information regarding this matter, I am sure you will agree the correct thing for the IAS to do would be to refund my, as well as my husband's donations.
I will expect two checks for Virginia and Michael McClaughry, for 2000.00 ea, within 2 weeks of receipt of this letter.
Sincerely,
Virginia McClaughry
cc: Lisa Mcpherson Trust
cc: IRS Assistant Commissioner Employee Plans and Exempt Organizations
cc: United States Justice Department cc: ACLU
cc: Lowell Bergman -Investigative Reporter
Hi all,
As I promised, quite some time ago, here is the data on Greg and Debra Barnes, Mike and my Sp Declares.
This first post will simply be fair use quotes.
Note (supposed high crimes will simply be referenced to the high crime list from the new squirrel ethics book, to save time, excepting for high crimes not covered in the ethics book)
MIKE McCLAUGHRY
Issue reads:
Sea Organization, 8 Jan, 2000
FLB ETHICS ORDER 866
ALL ORGS
ALL MISSIONS
SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DECLARE
Begin Fair use quote "In December 1998, Mike urged his wife, Virginia McClaughry to blow from Flag while in the middle of an HCO confessional. Virginia then did blow Flag and as a result made no further progress on The Bridge. Attempts were made to get him to come to his senses and to assist him in straightening out his situation. He refused the efforts to help him.
Mike began contacting Scientologists in the field, spreading Black PR about Flag and Lrh's technology of confessionals. By his actions Mike committed the following suppressive act:
"Attempting to undermine or advising or condoning the abandonment or reduction of the use of the full technology of locating and handling overts, evil purposes, destructive intentions and non survival considerations." End fair use quote
"........in May 1999. (comm ev convening date)"
Begin fair use quote "Mike refused to cooperate with the Comm ev and left before its completion. Numerous efforts were made to get him to return and apply standard Scientology technology and he refused." End fair use quote
(quote from HCOPL 7 Sep 1964 Committees of Evidence, Scientology Jurisprudence, administration of, part about getting the full penalty if you refuse or fail to appear before a comm ev)
Begin fair use quote
"Mike was given further opportunities to come to his senses and to avail himself of the technology of Scientology and get his ethics in. Mike refused and continued to spread Black PR and has been consorting with known squirrels and suppressive persons."
"Mike has not progressed on the Bridge for over 20 years."
"Mike has committed the following ......
End fair use quote
SUPPRESSIVE ACTS
nbr 1 is same as above
nbr 2 is "To alter or pervert tech or procedure to prevent discovery of withholds is classified as a suppressive act.
from ethics book, rest are
nbr 10, 35,21,18,19,45,47,33
kooky order I know but that is the order they are in on the issue.
The rest of the issue is the usual song and dance about certs and awards being canceled, come to your senses and do A to E, etc. etc.
The issuer is Snr MAA FLB who is Heather Petzold for FLB Justice Chief
Issue reads:
Sea Organization, 3 February 2000 (yes that is their typo)
FLB ETHICS ORDER 867
ALL ORGS
ALL MISSIONS
SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DECLARE
GREG AND DEBORAH BARNES
Begin fair use quote
"In October 1998, Greg and Deborah Barnes spread falsehoods and black PR and advocated squirreling of the standard application of LRH technology in an effort to prevent others from progressing up The Bridge. This is a suppressive act per HCOPL.....
(same sp act as mikes first one inserted here)"
"They have attempted to convince other scientologists to participate in their squirrel actions. They have spread enturbulation with their off-source activities, natter and black PR. They refused numerous offers to apply standard LRH tech to straighten out their confusions and out ethics."
End fair use quote
Begin fair use quote
".....(comm ev convening date noted)....They refused to cooperate with the Comm Ev and blew before its completion. Despite this, numerous efforts were made to contact them and get them to return and apply Standard Tech and they refused to do so."
end fair use quote
(same quote from HCOPL about refusing to appear before a comm ev is next)
Begin fair use quote
"Although given many opportunities to come to their senses they have instead continued to engage in suppressive acts. Greg and Deborah Barnes have through their own actions taken themselves off The Bridge and have committed the following SUPPRESSIVE ACTS:"
end fair use quote
---First five are the same as Mikes.
Then comes 19, 45, 47, 33 from high crimes in ethics book.
Rest is the same as Mikes, including who it is written by.
Issue reads:
Sea Organization, 5 March, 2000
FLB ETHICS ORDER 878
ALL ORGS
ALL MISSIONS
SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DECLARE
VIRGINIA MCCLAUGHRY
Begin fair use quote
"In December 1998 Virginia McClaughry blew from Flag while in the middle of an HCO confessional. She had been in communication with her husband who was encouraging her to blow while mid the confessional and without completing it. Attempts were made to get her to come to her senses and to assist her in straightening out her situation.
She refused the efforts to help her."
"Virginia began contacting Scientologists in the field, spreading Black PR about Flag and Lrh's technology of confessionals. By her actions Virginia committed the following Suppressive act:"
end fair use quote
(same as Mike's first one goes here)
(comm ev convening date bit next)
Begin fair use quote
"...Virginia refused to cooperate with the Comm Ev and left before its completion. Numerous efforts were made to get her to return and apply standard Scientology technology and she refused."
End fair use quote
(bit from the HCOPL about refusal to appear and penalties is next)
Begin fair use quote
"Virginia was given further opportunities to come to her senses and to avail herself of the technology of Scientology and get her ethics in. She refused and continues to spread Black PR. She as well prevented her husband from getting cleaned up when he was offered the opportunity. She interfered with the offer of help to him and as a consequence her husband was blocked from getting Standard Tech."
end fair use quote
My high crimes are exactly the same as Greg and Deborah's above.
Ok thats the raw data in fair use quote form.
Virginia McClaughry
Now that the raw data is there, we can do the fun part-the comparison of truth versus fiction.
To start with let's go for the obvious outpoints.
Mike's FlB ethics order issue number is 866, Greg and deb's is 867, mine is 878.
Now the interesting thing is that between February (greg/deb's declare) and March, (my declare), there is a gap of 10 between the actual numbers. This means that 10 other people were declared in one month, at the Flag landbase.
That's a lot.
Anyone know who they are? I'd like to speak with them :)
Next let's look at the number of High Crimes. Greg, Deb, and me, all have 9 High Crimes, whereas Michael has 10.
This is odd, let's see which one Michael has that we don't.
He has "Public disavowal of Scientology or Scientologists in good standing with Scientology organizations".
My my, what COULD Michael have done to earn this dubious honor??
Answer, Mike says that is probably because he sent about 10 people information on the changing of the tech, at Flag. What an interesting twist that is, how can a scientologist be in good standing, who is allowing the altering of the tech? Per policy, THAT person should be declared, not the person making this behavior known. But, David Miscaviage and company do not need a piece of paper declaring them suppressive. A piece of paper does not a suppressive make. Ahh but his actions, or inactions, that is what makes one a suppressive, and a menace to society. And many people know who, and what he and his friends are, without the "goldenrod".
Back to the High crimes.... our favorite high crime that we are accused of (we always laugh together about this one), is "Issuing alter-ised Scientology technical data or information or instructional or admin procedures, calling it Scientology or calling it something else to confuse or deceive people as to the true source, beliefs and practices of Scientology"
This is just the tiniest smidgeon (facetiously speaking) of "the pot calling the kettle black", or for you techies out there "the criminal accuses others of what he is doing"
We think it is just a riot that Greg and Deb, Mike and I, are accused of actually issuing data, as in classic definition. Writing bulletins and publishing them.
Isn't that what RTC and CST do? Naah. :)
Well, let's see if they do, just for kicks.
"The auditor produced a pack of BFO's, an inch or so thick, covering the SOLO NOTS administration line. She showed Virginia the page that covers the history of the six-month check line. Virginia immediately turned to the back of the reference to see if LRH wrote it. It was written by RTRC I/C Int. (This post is part of Senior C/S Ints office.) So, Virginia said, this is not LRH so I do not have to follow it.
Christina said read this part. This part said that:
"....in 1982 LRH was consulted regarding a situation with SOLO NOTS auditors at the time, to which LRH responded " get them in, get them cleaned up, and keep them cleaned up". Thus, the six month check line was born...."..
Virginia then told Cosima the following: thats an LRH advice to a specific situation at that time and that there are two HCOP/Ls that apply to this.
Virginia additional note:
A BFO is a Base Flag Order. Lrh's ADVICE (key term here), was for THOSE SOLO NOTS AUDITORS AT THAT TIME "Get them in, get them cleaned up, and keep them cleaned up".
Notice that this advice DOES NOT violate either HCOB Confessionals and the Non-Interference Zone, or HCOB C/S Series 73 RA or RB. WHY? Because obviously the above mentioned solo NOTs auditors were not progressing, moving well, were stalled, etc. etc. He applied his own HCOB's perfectly in the proposed problem to him.
The entire current 6-month check line is formed off of this onetime "advice" by LRH.
At this point, the terminals stopped trying to prove to Virginia, with non-LRH references and incorrectly interpreted HCOP/Ls, that the six months check line was a standard line. "
Now let's see what an authorized RTC representative had to say when confronted with this data:
(from my story)
"Virginia returns to Flag to meet with RTC rep, Marina Pezzotti. Marina says she has Virginia's security booklet wherein Virginia had signed and agreed to do six-month checks. Virginia says thats not LRH and I should not have signed it.
Virginia shows Marina the section of C/S Series 73RB where it says:
b) Pre-OTs in the area between the beginning of New OT VI (Solo NOTS Auditing Course) and the completion of New OT VII (Solo NOTS) may not receive any other auditing, with the exception of those services allowed in the No-Interference Area (between the start of New OT I and the completion of OT III) for pre-OTs who are stalled or moving slowly.
EXCEPTION
Pre-OTs progressing well in the No-Interference Area should not be interfered with by Sec Checking or anything else. However, when a pre-OT is stalled or moving slowly, any of the actions listed below, as appropriate, can be ordered by a qualified C/S...
Virginia says this is what this is all about and its RTC's hat to get LRH applied, so I'm here to get that done.
Marina says there's lots of other references on sec-checking. Virginia then tells Marina she has read all of those other references and that LRH does not contradict himself. Virginia says LRH himself has said when he wants that entire subject of sec checking used and when he does not want it used.
Virginia says there has been black PR on her from Barbara Nelson, that its Virginia's idea that there should not be sec checking on OTs. Virginia says, look at this HCOB, what do the materials state? This is LRH, not me. Marina says ok, I see your point.
Marina then says, what would you do if you were RTC? Marina has Virginia read the RTC brochure that says they are responsible for the security of the advanced course materials. Virginia tells Marina that RTC's first responsibility, according to the brochure, is KSW and that this LRH HCOB was not being applied and that they should not be sec checking SOLO NOTS auditors arbitrarily.
Marina again says what would you do if you were RTC? She says that SOLO NOTS auditors lie, they falsify there worksheets, they don't pull withholds, don't disclose ethics situations in their life, they have out tech and don't show it in their worksheets and it is our sec checks that find this out. Virginia says, I would apply LRH. I would find what LRH reference applies to the problems you're having and do what it says. LRH always has a solution.
Marina says yes, but I can't take any chances. Look at the situation in Germany. Maybe when the environment is less hostile, we won't have to worry about it and not do the sec checking all the time.
Marina says like the 10 OT 7 and 8s who resigned the Church in Germany. This is a perfect example of why we need to have this sec check line. Virginia says, no its not, it's a perfect example of how your sec check line doesn't work. Per LRH, you can't catch a criminal with a meter. Marina agreed.
Marina then says, well how would we know because these guys had perfect sessions. Virginia says what do you mean by perfect sessions? Marina says the worksheets say, SOS, F/N VGIs, EOS. And this is session after session after session, always perfect. And then this happens, they resign the Church, which was a complete surprise.
Virginia says, "perfect sessions?, that tells you right there something wrong. Nothing is happening. The case is stalled and needs a sec check per this HCOB". Marina says, "Well how would we know"? Virginia says indicators, the C/S has to know indicators.
Marina says, well I'm not going to change the whole line. I's not going to hurt you to get a sec check. If there is nothing on the question it will F/N. Virginia said not if you know its out tech and you're protesting it. Marina says it's not a technical point, it's a security point. Virginia then said, does he say anywhere in here that you can sec check for security purposes? Marina says no.
Virginia said what do the materials state, regarding sec checking of SOLO NOTS OTs who are not stalled or moving slowly. Marina agrees the HCOB says that you do not interrupt them.
Marina then says per HCOP/L Eligibility For OT Levels it says you have to have another eligibility sec check when you return to the AO after an absence. Virginia turned to the HCOP/L and said "what does further mean in this sentence?" Virginia says several terminals have misinterpreted this HCOP/L to me with the wrong definition of the word further. And I would be happy to show you in the dictionary how it is impossible for the way it's being interpreted to be correct. Marina said ok, ok, but I'm still not changing the line.
Virginia said, Marina, this is an LRH HCOB applying to SOLO NOTS pre-OTs. How can you, as RTC, who LRH specifically entrusted with KSW, say you're not going to apply this? Marina says because she also entrusted with the security of the advanced course materials.
Virginia then says, how can you alter the tech in the name of security? What are keeping secure then? Squirrel tech? In KSW LRH says its not the government or High Priests that will destroy us, its our failure to retain and practice our technology. If we alter the tech in the name of security, to prevent the advance course materials from getting in the hands of the SPs, then the SPs have already won. Because it is altering the tech that will destroy us, not the SPs.
Marina then says, well what would you do if you were RTC? Virginia then says, Marina, are you 100% for LRH? She said yes. Virginia says good, then lets do what LRH says in this HCOB. Marina says, well I might be willing to apply it to you. Virginia says thank you, but it does not just apply to me. (Note the attempted bribe there -Virginia)
Marina says I'm not changing the whole line, but I might change it for you.
She said let me check into this. Go do your new program and check back with me in a few days. Virginia said ok but I'm not doing any sec checking.
After that, Greg Barnes talks to Marina and Marina told him emphatically that they are not changing the six months check line. Virginia was unaware of this at the time.
Altered importance of destroying the tech in the name of security:
Falsehood that you can't apply HCOB C/S Series 73 and have security too:
Incorrectly included disagreement and justifiers regarding applying HCOB C/S Series 73:
RTC Exec Marina Pezzotti
Incorrectly included betrayal of Lrh's trust to preserve the tech:
All RTC Execs
Incorrectly included tech degrade for refusing to apply HCOB C/S Series 73:
Omitted application of HCOP/L 7 February 1965 Keeping Scientology Working:
All RTC Execs and Flag tech terminals involved with OT 7"
------What was that again Marina?? Let's look again, especially at this part..
"Virginia said not if you know its out tech and you're protesting it. Marina says it's not a technical point, it's a security point.
Virginia then said, does he say anywhere in here that you can sec check for security purposes? Marina says no.
Virginia said what do the materials state, regarding sec checking of SOLO NOTS OTs who are not stalled or moving slowly. Marina agrees the HCOB says that you do not interrupt them."
HMMMMMMMM, exactly who is "issuing alter-ised Scientology technical data or information or instructional or admin procedures......" and calling it Scientology?
Us, or RTC/CST?
That's a toughie, I know guys, I am sure you can muddle your way through it somehow. :)
I know it's not my name on those BFO's making up a 6 month check line....
Number 8 of our high crimes is probably our 2nd favorite one.
" refusal to allow staff or public to progress up the bridge or creating blocks on the bridge preventing such progression"
I'd say altering the technology, reverse auditing people, black pring them, is definitely putting some blocks on people's progress up the bridge.
We think this is another amusing, and infamous example of some people's apparently limitless stupidity, exposing what they are doing by what they try to accuse others of, a fact that sadly, held true every time.
The last High CRime we are accused of follows a close second to the above one, for amusement and that is "violation or neglect of any of the ten points of keeping scientology working".
Gag me with a spoon, RTC, really.
And by the way OSA, if you are reading this.
I WANT MY MONEY BACK FOR THE NON-STANDARD SERVICES I RECEIVED.
That's over 200,000 dollars, in case it has slipped your mind.
Now, where was I, oh yes, truth versus fiction.
Let's get into the meat of it now.
Let's compare Mike's and my declares first.
Mike's
"In December 1998, Mike urged his wife, Virginia McClaughry to blow from Flag while in the middle of an HCO confessional. Virginia then did blow Flag and as a result made no further progress on The Bridge. Attempts were made to get him to come to his senses and to assist him in straightening out his situation. He refused the efforts to help him."
Mine
"In December 1998 Virginia McClaughry blew from Flag while in the middle of an HCO confessional. She had been in communication with her husband who was encouraging her to blow while mid the confessional and without completing it. Attempts were made to get her to come to her senses and to assist her in straightening out her situation. She refused the efforts to help her."
"....She as well prevented her husband from getting cleaned up when he was offered the opportunity. She interfered with the offer of help to him and as a consequence her husband was blocked from getting Standard Tech."
Ohh, this is good, at first glance here is a big contrary fact.
Mike's
"Attempts were made to get him to come to his senses and to assist him in straightening out his situation. He refused the efforts to help him."
Mine
"....She as well prevented her husband from getting cleaned up when he was offered the opportunity. She interfered with the offer of help to him and as a consequence her husband was blocked from getting Standard Tech."
Now which is it????? Mike "refused the efforts to help him", or I "prevented him from getting cleaned up".
These guys can't even keep their lies straight, tsk tsk.
Want to know why mine had the bit invented about me preventing my husband from getting cleaned up?
Thought you might.
This data I am about to give you is not part of my story, it happened after that was all written.
I think it was June/July, when we were all still laboring under the delusion that SOMEWHERE in the Church was someone who would apply policy correctly, so Mike put this whole story on someone's lines he had no reason to distrust, Kathy O'Gorman, his old senior who is the CIC officer International at OSA International. I know, I know, this was like stumbling into the lion's den of criminality, as we know now, but anyway that is who he asked for help.
The "help" appeared in the form of Ms. True, Class IX OSA auditor assigned to "handle" us. Ms. True was sent to Clearwater to handle the Barnes's, but we called her up and asked to speak to her as well.
Ms. True spent quite some time going over with Michael his history in Scientology, his wins in auditing, wouldn't he like to have some auditing, she could arrange it, all stuff that had absolutely nothing to do with what we had called her about. Michael was following along with the conversation, but I, having a low tolerance for 1.1's that I do (smile), became impatient with all this buttering up and Q and A. So, I said "this is all well and good, Michael's happiness with the tech is not in question, so let's get back to the point. What about this LRH HCOB that is not being followed, and the reverse auditing by Therese? What are you going to do to correct this, as is your hat?" Let's just say that she was not pleased that I had not fallen for her sweetness and light routine, it definitely rattled her TR's and she got off the phone quite quickly after that. (heh)
So, in my opinion, the reason my declare has an opposite story over Michael's, regarding his reaction to their offer of "help", is because of Ms. True. She was not happy for me to have wrecked her little ploy's momentum on the phone, and it looks like either her, or someone she reported it to was still miffed about it over 6 months later.
Isn't that just a bummer for Ms True? Well, she joins good company. Rumor had it later that Flag was so annoyed with my ability to talk to public or staff, (or rather shoot down their lies), that it was ordered that noone talk to me. (which doesn't usually happen BEFORE you are declared)
:)
Anyway, that's my two cents on that particular outpoint in our declares.
To end with for tonight (it's getting late), let's go over this Virginia blowing flag business.
First of all, it's news to me that my husband was "urging me to blow flag", just as an aside, that was completely invented. My thought on Mike's declare is that they didn't have much to declare him on, so they had to invent something that the rest of the public just might be desperate enough to fall for. It raised quite a few eyebrows publicly what was happening with us, was unstabilising to say the least. Look at the stats I recently posted, ie 0, from the solonots newsletter. Ripple effect is taking hold. But be that as it may they had to come up with something, and this lie was a good as any I suppose.
What is interesting is that in December 1998, RTC herself, Marina, APPROVED MY LEAVING! She is the last person on the routing form, and all you lurking OT's out there who go to Flag know that.
So I guess if I theoretically "blew", RTC sanctioned it!
Also, I believe too many people had heard stories of what really happened with me, and something had to be concocted that would divert people's attention (they hoped) off of the real outpoint, the six month check line.
Note to OSA, you should tell RTC that was a bad idea, it actually made people realise that Flag was covering up the truth, bad move, really bad move. But good for me, as I have a lot of new friends now!
And, in case you missed it I WANT MY MONEY BACK.
I just noticed something that occurred in December 1998, with Marina, April Buchanan, and two unnamed ethics type personnel, that was not in the original writeup I did, but has been covered briefly in my refund letter to the Church.
I had a plane reservation made prior to arriving at Flag. The day came when it was time to leave, and after the truly unbelievable "handlings" I had at flag, with no application of the LRh bulletin in sight, I was set to leave.
I came in the morning to meet with April to "work up an ethics program for me to do while I was at home". I was seated in a small office in ethics, with April on the side where the door is.
We spent the morning there, and as it was approaching the time that I needed to leave to make it to the airport, April said that I could not go, and said hold on a minute. As she opened the door, I noticed there were 2 male sea org uniformed personnel on either side of it, guarding it apparently. I did not know until then that I was being detained. April came back and said you can't leave, and I said I have no reason to be here, you are not following this bulletin and I am leaving. She then said can you wait a few minutes RTC is on her way. Marina bursts through the door and points her finger at me, and in her best "Admin TR's" voice says "You are not leaving". Now again, me, not being the quiet type, I started to stand and said "Oh, yes I am."
Marina, her tr's slightly shaken (at such nerve I believe), says quite haughtily "Excuse me?", And I said with definite antagonism at this point, "You heard me.", and I started to leave. Marina blocked the door, and said again "You can't leave, this is not a good Flag product". I said "now that's for damn sure". Marina said, give me a chance to see if I can get Flag to correct this,so I was mildly curious at what that could possibly be, so I said I would wait for her to see what she could do.
I still was not allowed to leave this room, and was, guarded, until approximately an hour later.
I think this might be what as known, as illegal detention, held against your will, that sort of thing.
Especially where I was trying to leave to catch my plane and was stopped from doing so.
April also followed me EVERYWHERE the rest of that day, and into the next (except for at night), which I found amusing, in a macabre sort of way.
I think those of you lurking out there who are OT's, should know what is behind the 1.1 mask of "the friendliest place in the world", and this is one good example.
Ok, that's all for tonight, more to come.
Nite all,
Virginia
Hi everyone, thought you might like this post I did to ARS
Virginia
While the Magoo and Morrigan types provided some quasi-entertainment, I will be getting back to more interesting subjects.
But first some observations regarding Morrigan might be of note to some lurking here. (you know who you are). 1. She did not answer one question re: what she is doing to correct the alteration of LRH's technology, and 2. She goes into quite the BPC over my asking her these questions, with such off-topic responses as "you left your friends" "you didn't stand and fight", quite dramatic surely, but in the face of the subject I am currently discussing re: our SP Declares, exactly who left who?
Here is Morrigan throwing rocks on her computer at all who dare to stand and fight the criminality and violations of the creeds and codes of Scientology.
Hypocrisy is quite the in vogue modus operandi in the Church today, and if you or anyone on ARS think she is here without OSA knowing it, you don't know the current Church management at all.
OSA "doesn't" read this newsgroup, and pigs now fly.
Well, that about covers the subject of Morrigan, now onto more enlightening matters.
Let's carry on with the comparison of Mike's and my Declares.
"Mike began contacting Scientologists in the field, spreading Black PR about Flag and Lrh's technology of confessionals." By his actions Mike committed the following suppressive act:
"attempting to undermine or advising or condoning the abandonment or reduction of the use of the full technology of locating and handling overts, evil purposes, destructive intentions and nonsurvival considerations."
Let's go over Black PR
Definition 3. Admin Dictionary
"the activity called black propaganda consists of spreading lies by bidden sources. It inevitably results in injustices being done by those who operate without verifying the truth"
Excerpted from confidential OSA Intelligence HAT
: "It is my intention that by the use of professional PR tactics any opposition be not only dulled but permanently eradicated... If there will be a long-term threat, you are to immediately evaluate and originate a black PR campaign to destroy the person's repute and to discredit them so thoroughly that they will be ostracized."
Hmmmm, Mike says that one of the things that Ben Shaw told Greg Barnes, is that we were considered a "long term threat", we all at the time were wondering what the heck does that mean?? Makes sense now doesn't it, someone decided that we were one. We would definitely be considered that by the actual SP's running the Church. Could it be that this Sp Declare, as well as the Black PR campaign, were done to destroy our reputes and discredit us so thoroughly that we would be ostracized?
Now who (or what) would want to do such a thing as mount a full scale Black PR campaign against us for trying to apply standard tech, and get others to do so as well?
I'll let you all answer that by your big selves.
Now remember, Black PR by definition is LIES. Read that again LIES.
So, now, one and all, is this HCOB a lie?
HCOB
C/s Series 73 RB
"b) Pre-OTs in the area between the beginning of New OT VI (Solo NOTS Auditing Course) and the completion of New OT VII (Solo NOTS) may not receive any other auditing, with the exception of those services allowed in the No-Interference Area (between the start of New OT I and the completion of OT III) for pre-OTs who are stalled or moving slowly."
"EXCEPTION
Pre-OTs progressing well in the No-Interference Area should not be interfered with by Sec Checking or anything else. However, when a pre-OT is stalled or moving slowly, any of the actions listed below, as appropriate, can be ordered by a qualified C/S...
Or even the one that is actually by LRH, (not assisted by RTRC), is this a lie too?
"SECTION III: THOSE PERSONS COMPLETED ON OT III AND/OR COMPLETED ON ANY LEVEL ABOVE OT III:
A. CAN BE GIVEN, BETWEEN ANY OT LEVELS ABOVE OT III:
1. Auditing:
Any required PTS Handling that does not use Dianetics.
Prepared Lists, as applicable, with special instructions followed for handlings on Clears&OTs.
Purification Rundown.
Happiness Rundown
L10, L11, L12.
Confessionals.
The handling of postulates, considerations, attitudes, evil purposes or evil intentions.
False Purpose Rundown.
O/Ws.
Disagreement Checks.
Black PR handling.
Rudiments.
Method One Word Clearing."
(Note that it says above BETWEEN OT levels.
Or how about this one, is it a lie too?
HCOB 8 March 1982 Confessionals And The Non Interference Zone.
"CAUTION
A pre-OT who is running well and making case gain should not be interrupted"
Guess that about answers that question, these are not lies.
Ok, so what did Michael contact other scientologists about, and why?
He sent them the full report of which my "I am a SNCC Graduate this is my story" post was a part of.
Which of course is about the above references, none of which would be applied by Flag.
So, RTC was consulted, and refreshing our memory here, this is what RTC said about applying these references, from interview with Marina Pezzotti
"Marina says, well I'm not going to change the whole line. It's not going to hurt you to get a sec check. If there is nothing on the question it will F/N."
"Marina says it's not a technical point, it's a security point."
"Virginia then said, does he say anywhere in here that you can sec check for security purposes? Marina says no."
"Marina said ok, ok, but I'm still not changing the line."
"Marina says I'm not changing the whole line, but I might change it for you."
Ok ladies and gentleman, here's a question for you, if RTC, who is very specifically charged with Keeping Scientology Working, can say things like above, WHILE HAVING FULL KNOWLEDGE OF VIOLATING LRH's HCOB's in doing so, whose hat is it to ensure KSW is applied?
RTC is the top of the org board, now what?
KSW Series 1
" SCIENTOLOGY WILL KEEP WORKING ONLY AS LONG AS YOU (italics) DO YOUR PART TO KEEP IT WORKING BY APPLYING THIS POLICY LETTER."
"NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN SCIENTOLOGY, ON STAFF OR NOT, THIS POLICY LETTER HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOU."
So, now, whose hat is it to correct this ultimately?
That's right, you and me and everyone else in Scientology.
If you remember, the beginning of the Black PR campaign was by Barbara Nelson, Solo Nots D of P.
October 4, 1998
D of P Barbara Nelson writes a KR after the meeting on October 3, 1998.
She says that Virginia McClaughry and Greg and Debra Barnes disagree with sec checking mid-Solo NOTS. She says they were not at all interested at looking at other references on the value of sec checking.
Virginia and Greg and Debra find out about this KR later. They correct the false data and ask for a withdrawal and Barbara withdraws it. The correct data is that no one disagreed with sec checking, the statement was that HCOB C/S Series 73 was not being applied.
Also, no one ever said they were not interested in seeing other references on sec checking, on the contrary, Barbara was told that they did want to see the other references she was talking about."
The meeting with Marina mentioned above was in December.
After this meeting, a full scale Black PR campaign saying essentially what Barbara Nelson had said was begun. (I will post some of these docs soon)
Now as an aside, one could wonder if RTC and OSA decided we might be long-term threats AFTER Marina saw I wasn't going to budge on it.
Seems highly likely actually.
Ok so now we are faced with RTC who isn't what they said they are, and a Black PR campaign, what to do?
PR Series 18 How to handle Black Propaganda
"It is a long-to-find and hard-learned fact that people who engage in black propaganda have big bursting crimes to hide.
They do not have little (italics) crimes. They have BIG ones.
One's own ability to confront evil may be too low to really grasp the black propagandist's crimes or believe they exist.
Such people are often SANCTIMONIOUS hypocrites. They are usually arrogant and will not parley (have conferences with a foe). They appear so terribly sure they are RIGHT that it fairly shakes one's confidence that they could ever do anything wrong.
Thus the black propagandist is not detectable as such in many cases. The lordly institution, the lofty society, the glittering country are far, far above such a nasty psychotic trick as a studied, financed, expertly run campaign of vicious lies.
Thus they are believed, Or their servants believed. And their campaigns can be very (italics) effective.
..........And it makes it hard to get anything bad about them (italics) believed.
"But under all this are real (italics) crimes....."
"Believe that. For in the course of your counterattack you may despair of ever finding anything.
But you will find it."
"But there is no truth in the bad guys always cause their own downfall...."
"Therefore it is vital (italics) to handle the matter. One can't just hope it will all go away. It won't........."
"ONLY COUNTERATTACK HANDLES."
"One has to fill the vacuum of the counterpropagandist's evil deeds. As these are never exposed to view, there is a vacuum there."
He mailed 10 ex go friends of his, and exposed the crimes he had found (letter to be posted shortly regarding initial crimes found), as well as the Scientology HIGH CRIMES found, and asked them to apply KSW as well.
Not lies, as proven above, and not Black PR therefore.
Whew! I didn't know there would be this much just on one sentence of this SP Declare. Guess when a generality is there it hides a LOT of data, hmmm?
It's late, will do more tomorrow or so.
Nite,
Virginia
P.S. Notice in PR series 18 it does not exclude ANYONE, and that includes the Church, or other "scientologists". If someone runs a Black PR campaign on you, then they have crimes.
Which kinda puts the critics in a different light, doesn't it? (well, some of them anyway). Some of them are actually exposing some quite truthful crimes of the current Church Management.
So get your own ability to confront evil up guys, you don't want to be outdone by supposed "critics" do you?
No.
P.P.S You know, I had never even been anywhere on the internet that was critical of the Church until AFTER my comm ev, and the black pr campaign which it resulted from. I didn't even know there was such stuff!
And (critics you are going to love this), I went because that's what it says to do in PR Series 18 and I quote
"However, a black propagandist often has many (italics) other enemies. These have sometimes gathered data."
Since the Black Propagandist was My very own Church, where to apply this? Welcome to the world of critics and "SP's, and all their sites, data, as well as government and public records.
So there was scientology tech in use guys.
:)
So Alice in wonderland................ isn't it?
Confront,
Want to know how LRH says to keep espionage from occurring? (the big reason RTC "does" sec checks). Clue: NO WHERE IN THIS REFERENCE DOES IT SAY SEC CHECKING IS THE TOOL TO USE.
from HCOPL 1 September 1969R Revised 24 September 1983
COUNTERESPIONAGE
section "ORG'S PROTECTION"
"Our Dianetics and Scientology orgs are fortunate in that where tech is "in" very little infiltration can occur since persons cannot benefit from things they try to harm.
Our primary protection is "in" tech and well processed staffs. It follows that when tech is out, ethics will be found out also."
So there you go, in tech and well processed staffs is the answer, something which RTC cannot seem to grasp.
As another investigatory point, now that I read this again after everything I now know, look what LRH says are signs of intelligence actions being done on the organization, and see if any of these look familiar to you.
"Intelligence actions internally in a company or organization take five main courses:
Hmmm, looks like we have at a minimum nbr 2, 3, 4, and 5, present in the current Church of Scientology. Especially 2 and 5. One is probably present as well, if we investigate for it.
What does LRH say the motive is for all this?
"Financial gain is the primary motive in almost all cases of infiltration."
Now who would be gaining financially off of this infiltration, it's certainly not the staff. Let's see, what about the special directors of CST, or David Miscaviage, Norman Starkey, Marty Rathbun, or Mike Rinder?
Somebody is getting the money, as that IS the primary motivation for the current infiltration of the Church, per LRH.
Let's investigate that some more, shall we?
How about a "noisy" investigation into where the money is going?
Virginia
ok, there you have it!
You can arrange it or edit if needed, for your page, as long as the content is not majorly altered. :)
Love,
Virginia
In Federal Court, Spokane, Washington, a suit was filed on July 25, 2000.
Mike McClaughry VS David Morse and Associates: religious discrimination
Mike was "asked to leave" his 3 year job, due to "being declared".
This is America, and firing someone because of their standing with a Church, is not quite in fitting with the Constitution.
Virginia
Documents to be posted as they are filed.
Anyone who has newspaper/media connections feel free to inform them of the above. :)